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Bleak Iraq Picture...Long and Strange

Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 05:48:22 PM PDT

Alright....this is a really strange story/letter. My father, a journalist for Radio Netherlands recieved this from a fellow journalist with the Boston Globe (we live in Mass, thats not the weird part)

It is a letter supposedly from Wall Street Reporter Farnaz Fassihi, living in Baghdad right now, painting an awfully bleak picture of Iraq right now. It was sent to Andrew Rosenthal, the New York Times Reporter and eventually sent by his wife. I cannot for the life of me figure out if this is real, although it came through legitimate sources.

If this letter is real...why is it not being reported in the WSJ or elsewhere???? If it is real, this is shocking. The letter is below...it is very long, but very worth reading

To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; <mailto:Undisclosed-Recipient:;>
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 12:45 PM
 Subject: Fw: From Baghdad

 Everyone knows about my politics.  So you can believe it or not, but I didn't decide to pass this on b/c of my politics.

I don't read much coverage of the war.  But it's Andy job to read it, and he's read a LOT.  He doesn't pass on or discuss much of it with me, because as he notes, it upsets me. (The e-mail below is actually the first thing he's ever sent me about the war.)

Most of you probably know that Andy's views on the reasons to go to war in Iraq were much more nuanced and balanced than mine; he wasn't a "supporter" but he acknowleged at the time and later that there were valid reasons to take the action the Administration did.  You probably also know that Andy had a well-developed sense of integrity and that
he remains one of the increasingly rare journalists who takes seriously the responsibility to review information as objecitvely as he honestly can.  In the context of his profession, he does not use words like "incredibly powerful," "terrfying" and "depressing" to desbribe information or events lightly.  But he used them to describe the following e-mail.

Which is why I'm passing it on to you.  Do with it what you will.

Take care.  Mary Beth    
---------------------------------------------  
   ----- Original Message -----
 From:
 To:
 Sent: Friday, September 24, 2004 11:19 AM
 Subject: FW: From Baghdad

 Sweetie, I don't want to depress you, so advance warning that this is an incredibly powerful email from a Wall Street Journal reporter in Baghdad. it's not gross or anything, just terrifying and profoundly depressing. It's worth reading. Feel free to pass it on to anyone you'd like. ------------------------------------------------

From: "Farnaz Fassihi" <-----<mailto:------>>
 Subject: From Baghdad

 Being a foreign correspondent in Baghdad these days is like being under virtual house arrest. Forget about the reasons that lured me to this job: a chance to see the world, explore the exotic, meet new people in far away lands, discover their wars and tell stories that could make a difference.

 Little by little, day-by-day, being based in Iraq has defied all those reasons. I am house bound. I leave when I have a very good reason to and a scheduled interview. I avoid going to people's homes and never walk in the streets. I can't go grocery shopping any more, can't eat in restaurants, can't strike a conversation with strangers, can't look for stories, can't drive in any thing but a full armored car, can't go to scenes of breaking news stories, can't be stuck in traffic, can't speak English outside, can't take a road trip, can't say I'm an American, can't linger at checkpoints, can't be curious about what people are saying, doing, feeling.   And can't and can't....

 There has been one too many close calls, including a car bomb so near our house that it blew out all the windows. So now my most pressing concern every day is not to write a kick-ass story but to stay alive and make sure our Iraqi employees stay alive. In Baghdad I am a security personnel first, a reporter second.

 It's hard to pinpoint when the `turning point' exactly began. Was it April when the Fallujah fell out of the grasp of the Americans? Was it when Moqtada and Jish Mahdi declared war on the U.S. military? Was it when Sadr City, home to ten percent of Iraq's population, became a nightly battlefield for the Americans? Or was it when the insurgency began spreading from isolated pockets in the Sunni triangle to include most of Iraq? Despite President Bush's rosy assessments, Iraq remains a disaster. If under Saddam it was a `potential' threat, under the Americans it has been transformed to `imminent and active threat,' a foreign policy failure bound to haunt the United States for decades to come.

 Iraqis like to call this mess `the situation.'  When asked `how are things?' they reply: `the situation is very bad."

 What they mean by situation is this: the Iraqi government doesn't control most Iraqi cities, there are several car bombs going off each day around the country killing and injuring scores of innocent people, the country's roads are becoming impassable and littered by hundreds of landmines and explosive devices aimed to kill American soldiers, there are assassinations, kidnappings and beheadings. The situation, basically, means a raging barbaric guerilla war.

In four days, 110 people died and over 300 got injured in Baghdad alone. The numbers are so shocking that the ministry of health-- which was attempting an exercise of public transparency by releasing the numbers-- has now stopped disclosing them.

Insurgents now attack Americans 87 times a day.

 A friend drove thru the Shiite slum of Sadr City yesterday. He said young men were openly placing improvised explosive devices into the ground. They melt a shallow hole into the asphalt, dig the explosive, cover it with dirt and put an old tire or plastic can over it to signal to the locals this is booby-trapped. He said on the main roads of Sadr City, there were a dozen landmines per every ten yards. His car snaked and swirled to avoid driving over them. Behind the walls sits an angry Iraqi ready to detonate them as soon as an American convoy gets near. This is in Shiite land, the population that was supposed to love America for liberating Iraq.

 For journalists the significant turning point came with the wave of abduction and kidnappings. Only two weeks ago we felt safe around Baghdad because foreigners were being abducted on the roads and highways between towns. Then came a frantic phone call from a journalist female friend at 11 p.m. telling me two Italian women had been abducted from their homes in broad daylight. Then the two Americans, who got beheaded this week and the Brit, were abducted from their homes in a residential neighborhood. They were supplying the
entire block with round the clock electricity from their generator to win friends. The abductors grabbed one of them at 6 a.m. when he came out to switch on the generator; his beheaded body was thrown back near the neighborhoods.

 The insurgency, we are told, is rampant with no signs of calming down. If any thing, it is growing stronger, organized and more sophisticated every day. The various elements within it--baathists, criminals, nationalists and Al Qaeda--are cooperating and coordinating.

I went to an emergency meeting for foreign correspondents with the military and embassy to discuss the kidnappings. We were somberly told our fate would largely depend on where we were in the kidnapping chain once it was determined we were missing.  Here is how it goes: criminal gangs grab you and sell you up to Baathists in Fallujah, who will in turn sell you to Al Qaeda. In turn, cash and weapons flow the other way from Al Qaeda to the Baathisst to the criminals. My friend Georges, the French journalist snatched on the road to Najaf, has been missing for a month with no word on release or whether he is still alive.

 America's last hope for a quick exit? The Iraqi police and National Guard units we are spending billions of dollars to train. The cops are being murdered by the dozens every day--over 700 to date-- and the insurgents are infiltrating their ranks. The problem is so serious that the U.S. military has allocated $6 million dollars to buy out 30,000 cops they just trained to get rid of them quietly.

 As for reconstruction: firstly it's so unsafe for foreigners to operate that almost all projects have come to a halt. After two years, of the $18 billion Congress appropriated for Iraq reconstruction only about $1 billion or so has been spent and a chuck has now been
reallocated for improving security, a sign of just how bad things are going here.

 Oil dreams? Insurgents disrupt oil flow routinely as a result of sabotage and oil prices have hit record high of $49 a barrel.

 Who did this war exactly benefit? Was it worth it? Are we safer because Saddam is holed up and Al Qaeda is running around in Iraq?

  Iraqis say that thanks to America they got freedom in exchange for insecurity. Guess what? They say they'd take security over freedom any day, even if it means having a dictator ruler.

I heard an educated Iraqi say today that if Saddam Hussein were allowed to run for elections he would get the majority of the vote. This is truly sad.

 Then I went to see an Iraqi scholar this week to talk to him about elections here. He has been trying to educate the public on the importance of voting. He said, "President Bush wanted to turn Iraq into a democracy that would be an example for the Middle East. Forget about democracy, forget about being a model for the region, we have to salvage Iraq before all is lost."

 One could argue that Iraq is already lost beyond salvation. For those of us on the ground it's hard to imagine what if any thing could salvage it from its violent downward spiral.

 The genie of terrorism, chaos and mayhem has been unleashed onto this country as a result of American mistakes and it can't be put back into a bottle.

The Iraqi government is talking about having elections in three months while half of the country remains a `no go zone'--out of the hands of the government and the Americans and out of reach of journalists. In the other half, the disenchanted population is too terrified to show up at polling stations. The Sunnis have already said they'd boycott elections, leaving the stage open for polarized government of Kurds and Shiites that will not be deemed as legitimate and will most certainly lead to civil war.

 I asked a 28-year-old engineer if he and his family would participate in the Iraqi elections since it was the first time Iraqis could to some degree elect a leadership. His response summed it all: "Go and vote and risk being blown into pieces or followed by the insurgents and murdered for cooperating with the Americans? For what? To practice democracy?  Are you joking?"

 -Farnaz

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  •  Recommneded (none / 0)

    This pretty much confirms some of the stuff Juan Cole has been saying.

    Ben P

  •  Wow (none / 1)

    That sure seems authentic to me. I wish that someone would step up to the plate from the SCLM and print this.

    Q: How stupid can 51% of our country be? A: Pretty damned stupid.

    by wunderwood on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 05:59:28 PM PDT

  •  I want to see Bush and Cheney and Rumsfeld (4.00 / 6)

    and the whole lot of them imprisoned in cages in orange jumpsuits before a war crimes tribunal.
  •  It seems so surreal to me (4.00 / 2)

    This is a real Wall Street Journal Reporter...apparently. He is THE Middle East correspondent for the paper. Yet he writes this to another reporter, but not in his own news stories. Makes you wonder if the WSJ is stopping this from being printed.

    One of the hardest things to accept as just is a called third strike - Robert Frost

    by israelfox87 on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 06:28:42 PM PDT

    •  Should you edit? (4.00 / 4)

      I think you should remove the e-mail address of Andy Rosenthal's wife, since she is a private citizen. We don't want Freepers or Wingnuts getting hold of this and blasting her.

      Andy and Farnaz are reporters, so perhaps it's okay if their addresses are public, but for Mary Beth you may want to just take it out.

      Old Man McCain.com - the best anti-McCain blog on the web!

      by existenz on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:31:51 PM PDT

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    •  I second the idea (4.00 / 2)

      of editing to remove personal e-mail addresses. And quick.

      "There is danger from all men. The only maxim of a free government ought to be to trust no man living with power to endanger the public liberty." - John Adams.

      by mcjoan on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 09:06:33 PM PDT

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  •  Tip jar please (none / 1)

    I've recommended this diary and would like to add mojo--

    Here's some supportive perspective from a report by a childhood friend of mine (and childhood was a long time ago). I am in awe of her quiet courage, and that of her colleagues.

    Sorry, I tried to make a link, but it is behind some kind of registration. If you'd like to know more about this operation, try this.

    I have never experienced being stranded on an isolated island with no sea or air transportation available. But I am now experiencing voluntary isolation in the busy city of Baghdad.

    For several days, Christian Peacemaker Teams (CPT) members in Iraq have chosen to remain indoors, with doors double-locked and drapes closed. This action followed the recent abduction from their home of two Italian women
    and their two Iraqi colleagues. They were part of the humanitarian agency, A Bridge to Baghdad and vocal in their opposition to the Iraq war.

    When one is involuntarily marooned, he or she must concentrate on how to leave. We, in voluntary isolation, have the choice of opening the door and walking down the street to shop for groceries or riding a taxi to keep appointments as usual.

    How do we choose what to do? We consult trusted Iraqi colleagues, neighbors, church leaders, sheikhs and our landlord. We hear from former
    Iraq CPT members. We pray. We listen to each other.

    •  The Italian aid workers (none / 1)

      and their two Iraqi colleagues were freed/rescued and the Italians are in Rome. Rumors of ransom being paid?

      Nice to have at least one happy ending these days from that very sad country.

      The degree to which you resist injustice is the degree to which you are free. -- Utah Phillips

      by Mnemosyne on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 07:36:20 PM PDT

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  •  Fine...A Tip-Jar (4.00 / 14)

    But I'd rather this be recommended.

    One of the hardest things to accept as just is a called third strike - Robert Frost

    by israelfox87 on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 07:02:09 PM PDT

    •  How about both? (none / 0)

      You're there, pal.

      Personally, I'd like to see this diary overtake the Crawford Paper Endorses Kerry diary.

      It's more important, in the overall scheme of things.

      Doesn't make for great soundbytes, but it's a goddamned kick in the ass.

    •  I agree with Newsie on the point below (none / 1)

      It's silly, but more people will take the time to read this if you make it more aesthetically palatable to do so; which means, delete the email headings and addresses, clean it up just a bit.
      •  I thought Newsie was concerned about (none / 1)

        privacy more than aesthetics; was I wrong? I did wonder about showing the addy for Rosenthal's wife, but Andrew Rosenthal's own contact is readily available from the Times itself.

        As for both strandedlad's query about a contact for Farnaz Fassihi and Israel82's astute observation about whether he really wrote it and why it wasn't published in the WSJ, I suggest a Google on the terms "wall street ournal" "farnaz fassihi" -- which turns up some remarkable stuff, including places that show Farnaz's email at the paper itself.

        I was especially moved by this report from
        Afghanistan -- which seems to me to be very much in the same tone and style as the one from Iraq.

        Finally, can some seasoned Kossacks give advice on how to get more attention for a diary like this one? How many recommendations does it take for one to achieve star billing? Is it kosher to mention it early and often on open threads, e.g.?

      •  k.... (none / 0)

        email addresses erased

        One of the hardest things to accept as just is a called third strike - Robert Frost

        by israelfox87 on Wed Sep 29, 2004 at 04:43:43 AM PDT

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  •   Bush's solution... (none / 0)

    The draft.(spread the word to the kids)

    He'd have to manufacture another crisis to get people to go along with it. Maybe provoke Iran into dong something ?

    I can't see his administation "cutting and running" if they win another term. God , the hubris would be unbelievable.

    •  He may not... (none / 0)

      need to provoke Iran...at the rate Iran is working on getting their own nukes, either us or Israel is going to end up having to do something about it.. and either that my friends spells DRAFT for our young people...

      "Publicity is justly commended as a remedy for social and industrial diseases. Sunlight is said to be the best of disinfectants" Justice Louis Brandeis

      by mlangner on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 07:54:33 PM PDT

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      •  or (none / 0)

        Bush will pursue the policy that worked so well with North Korea.  You know the one I'm talking about, where he talks tough and dares the country to go nuclear and then does NOTHING about it when they cross that threshold.

        Bush only attacks countries that have no army and no weapons, like Afghanistan and Iraq. He doesn't attack countries that might actually pose a threat to anyway. For him it's all talk.

        At least Clinton threatened war with North Korea in 1994 and got them to put their fuel rods under UN inspection. But I guess that didn't count as "tough talk" by Bush's definition and thus was labeled a failed strategy. Bush's strategy, with Iran and North Korea becoming nuclear powers, is SO much better!

        Old Man McCain.com - the best anti-McCain blog on the web!

        by existenz on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:35:39 PM PDT

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  •  Last paragraph says it all (none / 0)

    The real reason we are losing Iraq is found in that last paragraph - what are we asking the IRAQIS to die for?

    This is the point to hammer Bush! What are you asking Iraqis to die for? Democracy? Freedom? A unified Iraq? When the different sectarian groups within Iraq can't agree on the shape of a future government, the US expects Iraqis to sign up and die for an AMERICAN VISION of what Iraq might become.

    - "You're Hells Angels, then? What chapter are you from?"
    - REVELATIONS, CHAPTER SIX.

    by Hoya90 on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 07:31:27 PM PDT

  •  Take out the email addresses. (4.00 / 3)

    Please edit out the email addresses in the diary.

    Thanks for sharing this.

    "The way the loser loses will determine whether the winner wins in November." -- Rahm Emanuel

    by Newsie8200 on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 07:32:42 PM PDT

  •  I am the managing editor of (4.00 / 2)

    the University of South Alabama Vanguard, a student newspaper. Last week, we published the "Men in Black" post from cbftw.blogspot.com (MY WAR), with the permission of the author, Spc. Colby Buzzell. It is a 2500-word-long account of an ambush in Mosul last month.
    This is something we would also be interested in publishing. israelfox, could you send me an email address I could walk back to get permission from the author to publish? Are the emails in the headers valid? Do you have the email of the original author, or someone who could introduce/connect me?
    Please respond if possible.

    What's the difference between Vietnam and Iraq? Bush knew how to get out of Vietnam.

    by strandedlad on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 07:35:23 PM PDT

    •  Fassihi's email address (none / 0)

      Here's Farnaz Fassihi's WSJ email address: farnaz.fassihi@wsj.com. I found the address here.

      As with any forward, there's a chance that it's not by whom it says it's from; and the hotmail address in the post may even not be real if it's a determined hoaxer. But you should be able to get a definitive answer about its source if you contacted Fassihi at the WSJ address.

      The world won't get no better if we just let it be.

      by drewthaler on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:21:43 PM PDT

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    •  I don't know what you are looking for (none / 0)

      I printed what I received...although I took out (now) the email addresses. I'm not sure what you're looking for...the author, with the WSJ, is currently in Iraq, Andy Rosenberg is with the NYT. They are the people you should contact

      One of the hardest things to accept as just is a called third strike - Robert Frost

      by israelfox87 on Wed Sep 29, 2004 at 12:33:44 PM PDT

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  •  I just emailed the address in the letter... (none / 0)

    No response yet...but at least this might discourage us from flooding that address with mail -- if in the rare case it is still operating.

    Republican't Leadership is a dangerous combination of cut-backs and incompetence.

    by casamurphy on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:03:35 PM PDT

  •  Disturbing (none / 0)

    In my mind this points more and more to the only logical solution being to pull out. If there was a little more intelligence and little less hubris we might be able to intelligently discuss this. Instead we are turning the corner....right. THis does seem pretty legit, and shows you how poorly the mainstream media is covering the occupation of Iraq. Glad I just got my passport renewed.
  •  It jives with an account of Roger Auque (4.00 / 4)

    a veteran French war correspondent I heard on French television a couple days ago.

    In a candid interview to the France 2 talk show "Tout le monde en parle", hosted by Thierry Ardisson, Auque -- who took a few weeks off before going back in Baghdad in three weeks -- told the audience a chilling reading of the situation in Iraq:

    • In the last weeks, even the quieter neighborhoods in Baghdad were rocked by insurgent action
    • Arms caches are set up in many location in the capital
    • There will be a general uprising in Iraq very soon
    • The US will crush it but the Iraq interim administration will not survive the uprising
    • Bush or Kerry, if elected, will have to give the keys to the country to the fundamentalists, in exchange for the oil wells. When? He replied: "in a month, six months, maybe a year".

    Auque, for those of you who don't know him, had his share of tough experiences in the past. In the 80s, he was kidnapped for 318 days by islamists militants in Beirut and has covered almost every tough spot for the last 20 years.

    John McCain Defends Bush's Iraq Strategy.

    by ClaudeB on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:12:51 PM PDT

  •  Good summary (3.75 / 4)

    but, honestly, I didn't learn anything from this email. Surely we all knew all this already?! Between  Juan Cole and our own, now-departed and sorely missed Paper Tigress, we've been kept well-informed of BushCo's disastrous failures in Iraq. And we also realized months ago that it's only going to get much worse if Bush somehow manages to steal another term in office. Expect carpet bombing of Fallujah and Sadr City (home, as this reporter notes, to every tenth Iraqi). I don't even want to think about the strife that's going to follow that.

    It's ironic that this comes from a reporter because, let's face it, the American Media have collaborated with Bush in creating this disaster. They are responsible -- criminally responsible -- for this calamity not being the No. 1 news story on every broadcast and on every front page every day of the week.

  •  The Horror (none / 0)

    One of the horrors I fear right now is the possibility that Bush will wind up serving another term (notice that I did NOT say "reelected"), and a few months into 2005 an accurate depiction of the state of Iraq will finally be all over the mainstream media.  And everyone who voted for Bush (whether he actually won the vote or not) will shrug it off and blame the media for not telling them sooner.
  •  I question the legitimacy of the document (none / 0)

    not the facts as presented.  (I sound like Dan Rather.)  While the facts are accurate, there's nothing in this piece that couldn't have been read on DailyKos over the past few months.

    The restatement of know facts, especially to another informed person, as if it was new information leads me to believe the letter is fabrication intended for exactly what has happened, wide spread distribution.

    I can't say I'm terribly disturbed by this fabrication. I get right wing crap like this all the time.  It's all just amateurish attempts at clever propaganda.

    Patriotic, flag waving, radical centrist Howard Dean Democrat. Until we stand on principle and lose our fear of defeat we will never win.

    by rusrivman on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:22:40 PM PDT

    •  possible (none / 0)

      Someone will have to check. Whether this is a real letter or not, all of that stuff in the letter is true.

      What makes me suspicious is that he mentions oil is now at $49 per barrel. If I was hunkered down in Baghdad I think the current price of oil would be the last thing I'd be paying attention to. Then again maybe he spends his free time watching news or something.

      Old Man McCain.com - the best anti-McCain blog on the web!

      by existenz on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:41:31 PM PDT

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      •  Also (none / 1)

        When did oil first hit $49? I thought it was this week, yet this letter was supposedly sent sometime late last week.  If anyone can look up oil prices from the 23-24 Sep that would help us authenticate it.

        Old Man McCain.com - the best anti-McCain blog on the web!

        by existenz on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 08:44:24 PM PDT

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      •  Font face (none / 1)

        Was this type-written?  How heavy was the paper?

        "I used to be disgusted, now I try to be amused..." - Elvis

        by Gearhead on Tue Sep 28, 2004 at 10:01:53 PM PDT

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        •  On my computer.. (none / 0)

          ..there are no visible superscripts, but I am seeing a proportional font. Hmmm..

          But seriously folks, it's not necessary for this individual's email to be the catalyst. The real issue is that the images of "house arrest" and the constant danger in supposedly safe areas.. that these images are repeated loudly in the SLCM mainstream.

          Q: How stupid can 51% of our country be? A: Pretty damned stupid.

          by wunderwood on Wed Sep 29, 2004 at 05:43:38 AM PDT

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    •  I second that (none / 0)

      The form is typical of chain mail attempts: establishing credibility upfront ("I don't usually do this but...") and then using unpersonal information that cannot easily be attributed of refuted (nothing there that cannot be found on internet).

      That said, the content does reflect what's going on. But as "Rathergate" showed, this is not good enough if you want it to have an impact (the story will be "WSJ identity theft by loonies", or something like that)

      FYI, the French journalist "George" mentioned in the letter was kidnapped on August 20. As this is "a month ago", this would make the letter about a week old.

  •  "We are the pride of the Iraqis" (4.00 / 2)

    "We are the pride of the Iraqis. Anyone who goes to Syria or Jordan is proud to be from Fallujah."

    That's the final field quote from Patchwork of Insurgent Groups Runs Fallujah (9/17/04), by Iraqi reporter Dhiya Rassan.  The article in full appears at the Iraqi Crisis Report.  Other articles on the same page (scroll down) include "Death Stalks the Road to Latifiya," and "Basra's Neglected Waterfront."  The publication is sponsored by the Institute for War and Peace Reporting.

    Also part of the site, The Iraqi Press Monitor is "a daily survey of the main stories in Iraq's newspapers. It features the top 7 stories of the day, along with a political cartoon." (Click on a date, and you'll get a pop-up window with very brief summaries, attributions, and the cartoon.) The political cartoon for September 24, the date shown for the e-mail in this diary, has the following translation/explanation:

    (Asharq al-Awsat) - Under the caption "Hostages", a masked man holds two hostages. The first hostage, on the right, is the usual type as shown in footage on Internet websites. The other hostage is a cameraman. On the camera, the word "Media" is written. The cartoon suggests that media outlets also are hostages to these terrorists who use the media for their own purposes.

    Anything like on-the-ground reports by foreign media will be harder and harder to come by.  I suggest bookmarking the links above, and helping IWPR in any way you can.  If not now, when?

  •  Mainstream statement of same truths (4.00 / 3)

    Here's a military planner writing at MSNBC who paints a similar picture of disaster. Even better, he makes concrete suggestions on just how a President Kerry could get the US out of Iraq! This is the discussion we'll all be having -- how completely awful it gets will depend on who gets elected, but it is going to keep on being awful til we get out.
  •  Sounds real (none / 1)

    Even if the source is fake, this sounds exactly like all the real reports coming in from Iraq. Foreigners are locked in by fear of being abducted or shot. Attacks on the rise. Some are even predicting a Tet-like offensive in Baghdad before the US election.
    And if you haven't read Juan Cole today, he just got mails that, if real (which I don't have much reasons to doubt), show that the Vietnam tactic of destroying the city in order to save it is quite popular in Iraq.

    Americans placed the stamp of approval on the least justifiable military action since Hitler invaded Poland. Paul C. Roberts

    by Clueless Joe on Wed Sep 29, 2004 at 01:20:14 AM PDT

  •  Warlords with modern weapons (none / 1)

    I can't help but think of this in terms of the horror of modernity.

    What prevents humans from descending into true horror is  organized society, security, legalized violence in the form of a state.

    There are places--Somalia, Congo, and Afghanistan--where the state has collapsed and warlords take over. But certain things--the fact that the population centers retain some organization, the fact that the population is more rural and dispersed, the fact that the warlords have less powerful weapons--prevents the craziness from getting too crazy.

    It seems like Iraq is giving us a picture of what happens when you've got the complete failure of a state in an urban area with access to cutting edge weapons. I guess Lebanon was like this--was it?? But we've created a thing of horror in Iraq.

    This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

    by emptywheel on Wed Sep 29, 2004 at 01:23:11 AM PDT

  •  This jibes with what an (none / 0)

    Iraqi friend of mine was telling me: she and her husband have lived in the U.S. for 20-something years but her mother still lives in Baghdad. She said that her mother no longer leaves her apartment, except to buy groceries at a small market that is on the street directly beneath her building. A bomb went off two weeks ago on the street behind hers, killing several people.

    I think my friend was in a sort of denial when Allawi took over, hoping against hope that he would clean things up, but she is completely disillusioned now. She's waiting to see if Kerry is elected; if so, her mother wants to stay in Iraq, praying that things will improve. If Bush wins, my friend is going to start the process of bringing her to live over here, even though her mother doesn't want to leave the country she's lived in for 70 years.

    I also asked my friend about the right track/wrong track poll number that Bush cited in his press conference with Allawi, and she said that no Iraqi in their right mind would ever speak negatively about the government currently in power. She said that the paranoia is bred deep into their bones from all the years of Hussein's rule, that the fear is woven into the surface of the skin. There's no way such a poll could ever be legitimate she said.

    What a mess.

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